With the recent announcement that instead of dedicated servers for online play there would be a matchmaking service like on the console variants of MW2, there has been a uprising of discontent from fans with the announcement on the internet today. From posting on the Infinity Ward forums and other forums showing their discontent, to numerous petitions online (with over 42K signatures so far), to canceling their pre-orders and threatening to not buy the game and pirate it because of IW got rid of dedicated servers and replaced it with a matchmaking option. So with all this madness going on, why are dedicated servers something PC gamers really care and need about to go and do all this?
As a PC gamer myself, I bought the original MW for the PC and played countless hours killing people online and having fun doing it.I would start the game, look for the usual server that I would join, and when I joined I would see the usual people in there and we would play the game. With the decision to replace dedicated servers with a matchmaking service, it would not be the same.
Changing to a matchmaking service makes the PC version more like the console version. This can cause many things to be different that would be normal to other PC games that have dedicated servers. The following things are a result of this happening:
Matchmaking issues
When I start up CoD:MW or almost any other multi-player game I just click on the “Join Game” button and I can look for the usual server that I go to and play with the usual people that play on there. With the change to matchmaking, you would no longer be able to chose what server you can go to and what people you will play with. You will be playing with people that is your rank, but that does not mean that they are not noobs and non-team players or not. Every time you play, there will be a new set of people there playing with you.
Latency = Higher
Dedicated servers are run by providers that have a huge amount of upload/download speed and bandwidth. They have upload speeds of over 100 MBits/sec and with high upload speeds, it keeps ping down. With matchmaking the end user has to run the server and not everyone has 100 MBits/sec upload connections, let alone 10 MBits/sec or 5 MBits/sec. This will cause the ping to increase not a lot, but enough to make it lag and have horrible hit registration.
No more BIG games.
With matchmaking you won’t be able to set up big games because of the latency and performance issues from the user hosting the server. The users connection would not be able to handle a big server, so server sizes will be going down.
Cheating
With punkbuster being removed and in it’s place VAC, the game is now more prone to cheating. Punkbuster is a good, but annoying method to counteract cheating, instead of leaving it in they replaced it with something worse. You can see other games like Counter Strike and how easy it is to cheat when using VAC. Cheating makes the game less fun and if you can’t win it’s worthless to you.
No custom content or mods.
You won’t be able to set up a game with custom maps or mods because there are no dedicated servers to run them on. Since there is no SDK and no dedicated servers there will be no custom content. Since there would be no custom content they can nail you with map packs for a price.
Map Packs+Patches (DLC) on the PC may not be free anymore.
Game developers and publishers create DLC on the consoles because there is nothing more that users can do with what came with the actual game. In order to give them more they charge them for more. With the PC, people would create mods and maps for free for users to play with. With no custom content for MW2, Infinity Ward and Activision can now charge you for extras. Where they would be free for games that are open to the community (L4D, CS, and more), it can now be something that they can make some money off of.
Lack of Control over rules, etc.
In a dedicated server scenario, the person that is running the server can ban anyone that they want. In a Matchmaking system, everyone has to vote on whether or not the person they want kicked should be or not, it’s not the same as an instant ban against the person. You can also control the game exactly the way that you want it on a dedicated server, like rules, map configurations, mods, etc.
No clan servers
Clans will no longer have a place where they can call home. They won’t have a place where they can just go and play with their fellow clan members and just do whatever. Clans won’t be able to run private servers where they can train or practice or just play with custom rules on purpose for specific scenarios/etc. With this change it will just make things harder for everyone.
These are just some of the main reasons why PC gamers want dedicated servers over a matchmaking system. There is however a bigger picture behind why this is happening. Infinity Ward and Activison and ALL the other game developers and publishers are starting to not care for the PC gaming group. Instead of putting time and effort into the PC version of the game, they are just porting the game directly from consoles and not caring what happens to the PC version. Patches are usually released latter than the console version and so are map packs. With the dedicated servers being removed Infinity Ward is putting one of the final nails in the coffin of PC gaming as we knew it, which was open and filled with support.
Maybe in the end of the battle between PC Gamers and Infinity Ward/Activison we might get a compromise of options to have both Dedicated Servers and Matchmaking service, but hopes for that are slim. With the petition growing ever so largely, all we can do is hope that change will happen for both the game and the way that the PC is viewed as a gaming platform.
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October 18, 2009
#1
I didn’t even want this game but I’m going to pirate it anyway now. That’s what you get for being greedy.
October 19, 2009
#2
Very informative article to a console gamer like myself. Good work!
October 19, 2009
#3
Ive canceled my preorder aswell. Gonna download the game firstl. Just to see if its worth buying it.
October 19, 2009
#4
Signed the petition and cancelled my preorder. F’uck thee!
October 19, 2009
#5
I wasn’t planning on getting the PC version, because some time ago i decided that i didn’t want to keep upgrading my PC, and instead bought an X360.
Why i’m telling this, is because while i love my X360, there was one thing i was missing in multiplayer games: The communities. The clanservers. The group of games you would get to know in your regular servers.
Why would they remove that? I believe that matchmaking NOT an improvement.
This makes no sense.
October 19, 2009
#6
The petition doesn’t mean anything and isn’t going to change anything about the game. It’s all about money,the company will do whatever it can do to make money off of you. So if the sales of this game are low , they most likely will change it but there will be enough sales of it for console I don’t think they will care and wait it out until people start buying it. PC gaming isn’t like it use to be. If these company’s kill dedicated servers and mods p.c gaming is over as we know it besides for some M.M.O.R.P.G’s keeping it alive. Consoles could steal them too. This is more sad then Final Fantasy going to X-box 360.
October 19, 2009
#7
I have cancelled my amazon-preorder too ..
October 19, 2009
#8
Also canceld my preorder if we dont have dedicated servers its a fokking ripoff.
October 19, 2009
#9
pre-order canceled, and petition signed!!
October 19, 2009
#10
Well i was looking forward to MW2, if this is true and it happens I wont be buying it, and neither will 98% of my clan (30+ members) – What about some hosts that already take money for pre-ordering a server, i know ours does that ?
October 19, 2009
#11
Yeah seems the money went to there head this time around, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA the guy who came up with these ideas must have really had problems with PunkBuster and Dedicated servers, the way i see it MW lives on another 3 years, and its still have full dedicated servers! and the guy who came up with them other ideas is falling deep into debt and might not work again cause of all these mistakes and shelves that is gonna remain full! PLUS they pushed the price up? HAHAHAHAHAHA Pirates is gonna have a early Xmas this year. Ps. The previous version they gave us 1 mappack and now they wanna control the whole system. Shame here comes another UT3.
October 19, 2009
#12
I hope nobody buys this crap, that should teach them a lesson and that’s not to mess with the buyers.
October 19, 2009
#13
It seems to me that IW is not willing to provide dedicated servers due to the fact that PC gamers tend to steal games rather than buy them. Sitting in thier shoe I would not waste money providing a free service which is what happens when 75K people play online but only 30K PC games were sold. IW and every other developer knows how many poeple use thier servers and they know how many games are sold.
This decision is all about money… PC gamers brought it upon themselves…. Quite stealing and maybee things will change. Until then expect a continual decline in PC, and the support provided to them.
October 19, 2009
#14
Very, very good article!
I ahven’t pre-ordered the game yet and will not do it also anymore. I did pre order a gameserver at our gamehoster but already claimed my money back as they won’t be able to supply a server for me.
This will be hitting on both sides: PC gamers and game hosters and gamestores. This is truly a major fuck up by IW.
October 19, 2009
#15
Congrats Infinity Ward for dooming MW2 before its even out !! just canceled my pre-order and see how things go after it releases .
P.S. : Great Article , well done.
October 19, 2009
#16
Great article. Canceled my pre-order.
October 19, 2009
#17
Wow, what a huge disappointment especially right around launch date. Bastards I say…and it all stems from corporate probably. Developers and designers probably has no say in it, just doing their job.
This definitely makes my decision on holding back on getting this game. COD 4 was awesome and I still play it quite often but with MW2 coming out, it’s more than disappointing on hearing what’s going to happen.
October 19, 2009
#18
i also signed the petition and canceled the preorder.
oh and thank you console users who stand with us and understand what we are missing. thank you very much.
also, fu activision and iw for doing this to us!
October 20, 2009
#19
whe got 55 mambers not 1 of them is bying that shit game nowe so if ol clans down thet they cane trwing the game in garbiths
October 20, 2009
#20
I will pirate the game now, because of the singelplayer, but the multiplayer of the game is a onther history now. I had already pre-ordre the game, but now i have cancelled the ordre.
If they think they can save some money now, they are wrong, people would gladly have payed for the game but now more people will look for a pirate version.
October 20, 2009
#21
I’m not a PC gamer, but I’m boycotting MW2 and IW. I’m disgusted by them, they’re greedy. I doubt it will hurt them because they’ll take plenty of cash from all the mindless idiots who don’t notice lag, but me and IW are done. There’s no “wait and see”, they’ve already announced their intentions so now I know them a little better and they’re not a company I want to associate with. This leaves a big space for another company to fill, so hopefully someone else comes up with a great game to fill the void.
October 20, 2009
#22
I won’t be playing this game ever again, I cancelled my Preorder and have since started looking for a new game that I can play on my terms not the gaming company. Ifthey want people to buy their games they need to accomodate them instead of trying to create a better bottom line for their profit maargin. I think what most console gamers don’t realize is that the PC versions are the backbone of the gaming history. I will never buy a console and I won’t be forced into playing a game that is not going to allow me to choose who i can and cannot game with. It is a sad day indeed. I guess maybe I’ll take up windsurfing or something. What a HUGE disappointment…HUGE.
October 20, 2009
#23
i don’t get this. why the hell would they want less money.
because as far as i know pirating will go up with mw2. witch means sales go down.
in cod4 you just needed a leagal version to play online and in competition (unless cracked servers) so allot of people bougth the legit version. now they f*ck up the multiplayer. so all peeps wilt pirate it for the single player.
i don’t know who came up whit this idea but that gy wasn’t realy smart.
wanted a preorder. was to late. so no need to cancel. never gonna by this just cause they messed up for pc gamers.
October 20, 2009
#24
congratulations. you officially fucked your own company’s reputation and increased piracy. It’s retarded to think this game wouldnt have been pirated ‘anyway’ but it will now be a number exponential in comparison. Your fault. Deal with it…..kinda like were supposed to deal with your shitty matchmaking system. IW fail
October 20, 2009
#25
me and my clan [OUTLAW], over 200 members, will not be buying MW2. IW has forgotten that PC gamers was the one that started the COD craze
October 20, 2009
#26
Lets see 42k x $50 =$2.1 million dollars they will be losing if we[pc gamers} dont buy the thing.HUMM Lets see if they’ve thought about that,and thats just the gamers that have registered thus far.
October 20, 2009
#27
Well, there’s always World at War. Treyarch hasn’t fucked us over like IW has to you guys.
October 20, 2009
#28
still cant belive thay have done this to the pc gamers as the pc gamers started call of duty if it was not for us there would be no mw2 so ppl with xbox and ps3 just think whats iinstall for you guys later..i have an ps3 but will not be buying it.stoped my preorder that was 3 copies off the game.
October 20, 2009
#29
I will not pirate the game, (it’s theft) but I will not be buying the 3 copies that I normally would, like I did for cod4. The main reason I play FPS games is because it can be played with friends and family. Our squad was excited about going to mw2 but we will stay with cod4 until something new comes along. may be Novalogic may get their heads out of the sand and put something out.
October 21, 2009
#30
How sad…. Really sad I am.
MW was really nice and I was so excited when I read about MW2 and just wanted to preorder it. Now…. I’m really not sure if I’d buy this game.
It’s like Battlefield / Diablo 3 / etc. It’s all about the money, no more about Gameplay, community, fun etc.
Just the Fact about the dedicated servers makes me upset… that’s all I hate about the Console: Not choosing a server where you’d like to play, have your friends/mates on, or just the same players on it every day you join the server.
Maybe that’s the reason why I’m still playing Urban Terror (Q3A mod). Join a Server, have fun, meet people, play with your friends, etc.
Maybe people like us should go back in time… search out Older games and have fun. Because this isn’t fun anymore.
October 21, 2009
#31
i like to thenk the consul players fore there suport in this its great to se thet whe stand to ghetter in this thenks gise
October 21, 2009
#32
its 4.8 milj whot they goin to mis at the moment
October 21, 2009
#33
Wow
I promised myself before that I will never pirate a game made by Activision(including IW). But now, heh, they forced me to pirate it.
guys, piratebay(dot)com is a good source. HAHA!
October 21, 2009
#34
at least you can still make private lobby’s
and customise the rules in there.
October 21, 2009
#35
What most of you are missing is the point, and yet you all state it in your responses…..they are going where the MONEY is! Yes, my clan is not buying this game for the simple fact that there are no DS’s and no modding! We run a tactical realism server, and now that that has been taken away, there is no point. Everyone that we play with and or against Hate the run and gunners! That is not warefare! If you want to run and gun, go play UT!!! IW and Activision, you really dropped the ball on this one! How about you remember your roots! The petition I signed had over 160,000 signatatures on it. Tell me that even if only 80 % of those follow through and NOT buy the game, What you have lost is sales would have more than paid to have a dedicated PC dev team and still make millions in profit for your company?!!?!! Good luck IW and Activision. When you screw over the consoles like you have the PC, your companies are finished!!
PS- Great article!!
October 22, 2009
#36
Also cancelled pre-order.
Online gaming is everything to me, my clan and most PC gamers I know. I sold my console because match-making DOES NOT WORK in Australia. Our net is too damn lame.
Thanks IW, I’ll be spending my gaming budget with EA or someone else this time.
October 23, 2009
#37
First of all, can someone give me the address for the petition so I can sgin it.
Second, I liked to CoD series and the games that Activision put out, but now I am not so sure. If IW and Activision go through with this I will be getting rid of all my games from them both. What is it that makes them hate PC users so much, They will loose alot of money over this as well as a worldwide fan base, and think of all the money they will loose from other countries. I to will cancel my Preorder of the PC version. I will just have to find other games to play online. You ASSHOLES at IW and Activision should be ashamed of yourselfs you freakin DOORKNOBS!!!!
October 24, 2009
#38
I have a site with over 100,000 members.
I am starting my own local petition, fuck Infinity ward.
You don’t want to treat PC gamers like PC gamers, then PC gamers won’t fucking buy it, simple.
October 27, 2009
#39
Boycott Modern Warfare 2 – boycottmodernwarfare2.com
October 27, 2009
#40
I was a pc gamer, loved the community side of playing games in clans, using team speak and the overall practicality such as minimizing the game and using other applications. But playing games on PC was and is only a huge hit because it was the first to utilise online gaming and the easy access of community play. But if you think about it, it creates a big divide between the poor and rich, like buying new graphics cards, memory and other shit, it’s too expensive unless you have the money, like you buy the best alienware pc and it’ll set you back £6000! and for what? to have it for about 6months, having the best pc and then its out of date again. it’s never going to be equal and that’s why consoles are inevitably going to dominate the gaming world, and that’s why i switched i got bored of having to pay for new equipment just so i could be able to increase fps and join a server before other players or so i could actually get to play a whole game. So i bought a PS3.
Their not going to change the fact that there are no dedicated servers because there aren’t enough PC gamers to compete with the sort of money that consoles generate (why i think it’s cheaper for PC players to purchase the game?). I think PC gamers need to realise the future in gaming is console based. I know their not quite there in online gaming. Your best bet is to buy a console and wait until games and consoles improve the whole online gaming, like community play.
October 28, 2009
#41
This is too bad to be true. The true thrill of the game is when playing among friends. Is there absolutely no way around this?
(Good article Nima, VERY informative)
October 28, 2009
#42
You guys are retards for talking shit about MW2 if you don’t want to buy it don’t stop saying you were going to buy 3 copies just move on, most of you said it yourself IW doesn’t care about you guys just go into a corner and shot yourselves.
October 31, 2009
#43
I wanted this game but not anymore after knowing this!
This won’t work and is gonna cost them!
October 31, 2009
#44
After this Information can I say, Neither am I. How can IW do this??? I think he would create a Game, that is better then CoD 4. but with this Concept?! Noooooooooooooo Chance
November 2, 2009
#45
Great article, but b4 you cancel your preorder, check this out. The PC article will answer some questions.
November 7, 2009
#46
What there trying to really do is shut the pc place out so people will have to buy 300-400 dollor consoles and then 50 dollors games it weliminates pirating mostly and gaines more money in people addiction for a good game so they will end up buying the consoles vs there own computer they already have
November 8, 2009
#47
ok seriously yea that sucks ass but theres still the single player and the online just no mods or special games go in a private match if you want those stop bitching just cause you canceled your pre-order dosnt mean shit to them there still gonna have plenty of 360 and ps3 buyers and still some pc so shut up and move on
November 9, 2009
#48
I am completely discraced to be frank by the little effort they are putting into the pc version of the game. I have all of the cod series and I always want to play with my friends, on a very rare occasion do i join a “random server”. My clan own 3 clan servers atm with 100% uptime, no lag, and what appears to be happening is no1 can play with friends, no1 can have their own server, every1 must lag unless ur the host and WTF MAPS SHOULD BE FREE!!!!
I am adding to the list and i will not be buying this game unless they bring dedicated servers back. Good job activision.
November 11, 2009
#49
WOW….can’t expect most console players to comprehend the magnitude of the horrible decisions IW and Activision made here..Honestly.. how fucking stupid are they!?? Pc is the backbone.. who improves on the game and makes mods for them to look at and take ideas from.. US! Who benefits then later.. CONSOLES! HENCE.. RESPECT US CONSOLE FUCKERS! Can’t state how disappointed i am with so many aspects of this game now… WILL NOT BUY!!!
November 19, 2009
#50
The only thing that fucks me off about this matchmaking bollox is the fact that the stupid cunt game gives me a Strict NAT, so i cant even play with mates, i cant join their games, they cant join mine – its lame. so yeah, fuck off IW you fucking cunts
And yes, i have tried EVERYTHING to make it an Open NAT, and i mean everything before you start telling me to open ports and enable upnp and bullshit, trust me, ive done everything… and yet i still have a Strict NAT. i only bought the fukin game on steam as 3 of my mates had it, and i dont even get to play with them? ROFL todger cunt shit lipped wankers… ripped me off bigstyle u fuckin money grabbing tits
November 21, 2009
#51
Damn… I bought this game based on how much I love cod4. But all the posters are correct, this game is not worth the money. The 5 hours of s/p are good, but the rest is a crappy mess (I’m looking at you multiplayer). The idiots that nerfed the m/p should be fired. Do they have a pack of monkeys working there…so dissapointed.. Everyone, pirate the game for s/p and return to cod4 for m/p till they get something better
November 23, 2009
#52
maybe if PC gamers weren’t such a bunch of pirates, then we would get more support.
The fact that PC gamers are so demanding, along with high piracy rates, and a lack of willingness to pay for DLC means that there is more money in console games. so that’s where the dev’s money is going.
P2P online gaming is the future. Its just a matter of bandwidth, when everyone has fibre with 100 Mbit down/up, it won’t matter about lag on P2P.
November 24, 2009
#53
Control Monkey…
Way to go accusing us PC gamers of “being a bunch of pirates”
I aint, I pay for my stuff and if you notice people are complaining about the multiplayer aspect (harder to pirate).
Yes we are demanding, we are paying top dollar for a bloody port from your shitty substandard graphics useless controller fucking consoles.
What they are doing is lazy and greedy and only encourages people to pirate the one thing the game has left going for it (single player).
Also, the multiplayer will go the same way that battlefield heroes has…the way of the hacker. Without the ability to ban people from servers (via their steam ID) we have zero recourse against the army of bell ends that are now infesting our games.
GIVE US OUR FUCKING DEDICATED SERVERS
November 25, 2009
#54
I’m with Winged 100%. And as for the kid that is telling PC gamers that the Devs have forgotten us you just remember that without our PCs you wouldn’t have a console.. Do you think that Will Wright wrote sim city on an atari? PC gaming is the core of the gaming industry. Maybe there is more money for the devs in console based games but imo that is due to a decline in intelligence and critical thinking, ya know how you just stick your game disc in the console and off you go no thought involved? Well some of us with a brain actually like the idea of tweaking our graphics or mapping our controls to any damn key we want, not to mention that you don’t see basement devs like myself coding mods and new content for consoles for all of our gaming brethren to enjoy.. That is because consoles are a limited and crippled base for gaming.
Go ahead and take away PC game support. I can almost certainly guarantee that malicious attacks on networks and matchmaking hosts will become common activity.
Oh yea.. and if your precious little xbox or ps3 happen to get a virus you may just have yourself a very expensive paper weight..
So yea…. Piss off the PC world and see where it lands.
November 27, 2009
#55
all im going to say is well done craptivision and IW you have convincingly proven that you dont give a shit about the pc gamer and have no real idea of what the gamers want from a game its simple people want to be able to play on dedi servers because of the comunity it builds and the friendships we make
i have made alot of friends from previous versions of cod and all feel the same as i do the matchmaking system does not allow for building of clans or comunities plus you have just given the cheats and hackers a free reign to ruin the game all togeather as there is no real control over them anymore nice work its good to see there are some real idiots working for you and as long as they stay with you then im sure the gaming comunity will find a new supplier of good games EA come back all is forgiven lol
my final words on this matter are
to activision and IW fuck you and all who sail in you
November 27, 2009
#56
Just found this Post my technorati Newsfeed, Very Nice post and Interesting too. Keep it up.
Jenn
November 28, 2009
#57
I love you guys. Its already been totally explored. However, unless i missed it, I think we are missing a HUGE market here.
alienware, dell, best buy, graphic card manufacturer, on and on. What about getting THEM pissed off? What about informing THEM of their loss of income if pc gamer goes up? I would love to see a port for console player to play with ds…the more the merrier, and the longer and richer the servers are likely to be.
I have already started an air raid of informing BB for instance, when I returned $80 of the MW2 and book, directed at manager to kick upstair, that I spent, alone, at BB $3000 last year in hardware, new comp, graphics card etc, etc. What difference I told them should I spend all this on upgrades? I might just as well buy xbox and save a lot of money.
dont ya all see, how much THEY are invested. Now I think THEY can do something for us. I have heard it quoted often fps drives the hardware develp; most people dont spend $500 on a video card….well, you see where I’m going with this.
I’ve read on many of our complaint gamer sites console gamers taunting “riduculous petions, boycotting; no one care about them”
This is WHY they treat us this way: I agree, pirate whatever; now a ded server is online with a crack: steam and activision, IW is not recognizing it as a crack; maybe they are getting tired of this.
Please join in the airstrike to firebomb these guys by calling in OUR fees to the hardware manufacturers who rely on us.
Let IW, Activision, Steam make sweeping statements to dismiss us.
December 3, 2009
#58
Still have a strict NAT from my earlier post about 2 and a half weeks ago. phoned my isp they dont have fuck all clue about it. it could just be my router but im not spending an extra £60-80 just to play this shit cunt of a game properly.
still unable to play with my friends – lol.
whenever i do play theres always some wallhacking inbred cunt on the game which makes it that much more enjoyable! NOT!
December 6, 2009
#59
IW hear our pleas.. You made a mistake…. So fix it. You people are causing yourself undue bad publicity when in fact you most certainly made a truly unique gaming experience. Fix your new cash cows’ flaws and allow a true community to partake in the excitement as well.
Your claims of cheating being the reason you removed dedis have been noted, met, and absolutely put to the test in comparison to the amount of supposed cheaters in CoD4 MW to the true hackers and cheaters of your oh so loved gaming consoles simply shows hands down that with out a dedicated true community backing your title reports of cheaters and unhappiness flood the internet forums like a plague infests a city leaving the hard core players questioning if they should allow a company that should with out doubt fully support the community that gave them the glory they see today and who has blinded themselves with profits and a hunger for control that no longer respects the game communities wishes but creates and develops simply to fit their own agenda to walk away with their hard earned cash.
Yes you are a company, with the obvious need for turning a profit especially in this supposed economic downturn. But the way you have lost sight of the very people who make it possible for you to do just that is quite unsettling and disturbing.
Our desire to play your title should above all else be your driving marketing strategy, as without meeting the desires of the consumer you fail to meet our standards as a reputable and wholesome company.
Fix your mistakes and the web, this little thing that allows us to exchange information will chirp with the praises of your would be followers and not echo the yells web wide that are being posted in disgust and rage shaking your very company to the core, for without meeting the respective needs of your intended consumer your company will simply obtain a bad name and be one of the many failures amongst our ever expanding developer wall of shame.
Again, I ask that you heed our pleas and make arrangements to resolve a couple minor but costly mistakes.
July 27, 2010
#60
Sometimes I wish that they had dedicated servers for Xbox Live….
July 27, 2010
#61
I guess I see where you are coming from when you want to play on the same server with the same people. I’m not too familiar, though, because I play console games.